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Longtime BFFs Lawrence Winnerman and Dana DuBois approach each episode with curiosity, candor, and just enough irreverence to keep things upbeat, even on the most dire news day.
Today we welcomed the incredible Ellie Leonard, investigative Substacker and Epstein-files researcher whose rapid rise has been fueled by meticulous document dives, sharp pattern recognition, and a refusal to let powerful men rewrite the narrative.
Together they discussed:
Fergie’s emails with Jeffrey Epstein — what the tone, timing (post-conviction), and financial entanglements reveal about elite normalization and the culture of enablers.
Why survivors are still forced to prove everything — from Epstein’s circle to Christine Blasey Ford, and the systemic reflex to protect powerful men while discrediting women and children.
The Michael Cohen problem — gaslighting, revisionism, conservative podcast circuits, and what happens when accountability researchers start connecting the dots in real time.
The conversation also wove through authenticity in media, staying grounded amid rapid visibility, and why men — especially in power — must finally carry their share of the moral weight.
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